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Silesianus's avatar

People who obsess about remaining eternally alive are in a state of permanent fear and only consume without any output - they are already dead. Only the living can give of their flame of vitality to create art and culture that will leave a lasting legacy.

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Dan D'Agostino's avatar

I've never really understood what the transhumanists think they can make immortal. As far as I can tell we only exist interdependently, in relation to one another and the planet -- and beyond that, the universe. There is no separate, inherently existing self that you can actually find. What we actually are in being interdependent is beyond the ability of words to express (although Shakespeare did do a pretty amazing job using them).

Looked at that way, there's a contradiction in the egocentricity involved in exploiting others and the earth so that you can achieve immortality. The last human on a burning earth won't be fully human because they won't have anyone else to relate with. Of course, in that way they will have achieved some kind of transformation -- but maybe not the one they were aiming at.

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